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Offline Bamboo

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Opening the energy channels
« on: February 26, 2011, 09:47:29 am »
Hi all,
I'm a buddhist, but i use Daoist exercises in order to open the energy channels, to aid my meditation. I was just wondering what buddhist exercises are out [publicly available] there for accomplishing this task?


The purpose of my using energy exercises is basically summed up by William Bodri:

'When you want to cultivate, you want to reach samadhi. You cannot reach samadhi unless your energy channels all open. So, many methods have the purpose of helping you clear your chi channels so that you can enter into samadhi.'

Over on taobums they're all using the same 4 or 5 systems - kunlun, KAP[kundalini awakening process], SFQ [spring forest qigong], yigong etc. So what are the freesanghans all using??


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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 02:49:07 am »
When you want to cultivate, you want to reach samadhi. You cannot reach samadhi unless your energy channels all open.

Are you sure about that?  If that were so, then the Buddha would've said so in the Sutras and made it a fundamental part of the eightfold path and everyone would be practicing qigong (chi kung) and he would've taught people how to circulate their chi.

If that were so, it would also mean that if you were sick (that means that the chi channels are blocked - if you subscribe to that theory), then you wouldn't be able to enter into samadhi.  But the fact is that people can still have excellent meditations - even when they are sick.

You also find that some really good meditators don't even practice qigong - they just meditate.

Now, the story goes (according to what I've read - as accounts vary) that Bodhidharma went to the Shaolin temple and saw that the monks were sick and weakly - and so were falling asleep in their meditation.  So he taught them some exercises, which gradually evolved into Shaolin kung fu.  The 2 main ones are Yi jin jing (Tendon changing classic) and Si Shwei jing (Marrow changing classic).

Having said all that, for general health a really good set of exercises are the Ba Duan Jin (the 8 Pieces of Brocade).  This is a set of 8 exercises which Shaolin practitioners do as a warm up and gently stretches and involves nearly all the major parts of the body.

The 5 Tibetan exercises are also good.  Basic qigong is good.  Also good is the Yang Cheng Fu long form.

Still, I reckon a good walk, jog or swim regularly will also do wonders for the body as it circulates the blood (which supposedly carries chi), works the lungs to oxygenate the blood and whole body, works the major muscles groups and has works the body both aerobicly (i.e., cardiovascular exercise) and anaerobicly (muscle/strength training).

Gentle stretching of the major parts of the body is also good as this stretches the meridians as well (called meridian stretching).  There are also certain ways that you can balance the meridians in the body.  Herbs and things like cupping and acupuncture/acupressure can also open the channels up.

Whatever exercise you do, the important thing is to be consistent and make it enjoyable - that way, it's self rewarding - and so you'll want to do it everyday.  So it becomes a good habit.

Still, I consider this stuff more to keep the body healthy, which has a beneficial effect on the clarity of the mind.  However, I don't think that samadhi is contingent upon having a healthy body as if that were so, then the really good meditators wouldn't be able to enter samadhi if they're sick - but they can.

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 10:22:53 pm »
According to Buddha, the constant energy revealed in sutra is there for you to enjoy, just get connected  :socool:
n Elder Master once said:
Those who skillfully discourse on Mind and Self-Nature surely can never reject Cause and Effect; those who believe deeply in Cause and Effect naturally understand the Mind and Self-Nature in depth. This is a natural development.
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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 02:45:15 am »
I know that excercise preceding meditation is often beneficial.
I often practice Tai Chi or go for a long walk before meditating and it's easier to settle down your body than if one was watching TV or doing something which was mentally stimulating.
I can't honestly say that I reach deeper states more quickly or gain greater insights after meditation though.

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 06:23:51 am »

Offline justsit

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 10:22:55 am »
Discussion of your reference here.

 
"The point is with dharma you really want to follow teachings and teachers from an established tradition otherwise you can end up in a lot of trouble and although there are many great teachers all over the world there are also just as many frauds, charlatans, con-artists and self appointed masters who think they know it all. ..."

Caveat emptor.

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 01:43:11 pm »
haha, sorry.

The link is to William Bodri's website. His teacher is the redoubtable master Nan Huaijin. Bodri's teachings are heavily on the energetic aspects of esoteric buddhism. Although it seems to me that there are energy practices in orthodox buddhism too, but they are hidden. Hidden in plain sight. For instance, anapana works on openening all the energy channels of the body, as well as its more well known aspect of cultivating awareness. Full lotus posture increase the circulation of energy in the torso, and also opens the channels in the legs.


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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 02:19:34 pm »
Well, you posted your question in the Vajrayana forum. Of course there are methods to open the channels taught in Vajrayana, but only by genuine lineage holders as part of a complete path, not just as techniques on the internet. Mr. Bodri has no Vajrayana connections listed, and the "karma calculator readings"??? The Chinese teacher may be authentic, but Mr. Bodri has no authentic teaching lineage. You would do better to find an authentic teacher.

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 06:34:10 pm »
Hmmmmm .... ... ..... seems "untraditional" to say the least ..... http://www.karmacalculator.com/
 
 
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 10:57:30 pm »
William Bodri is not my teacher, and i don't particularly follow his teachings. I stumbled across his website, while looking for information on anapana. It was kinda interesting to me, because he was speaking about things that you never seem to be addressed in mainstream buddhist literature. That's all.

I posted the questions about opening the energy channels here because the Tibetans seem to be more up on that than say the zen crowd. But yeah figured it would probably be all hush hush, totally sectretive.

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 11:08:36 am »
If you are a parent with children, and have sharp knives in the home, do you not keep them in a safe place and not leave them lying around the kitchen? Isn' t the compassionate thing to keep the knives in the drawer, and teach the child to use them when they are ready? Just so with Vajrayana teachings - untrained persons can get hurt using techniques they haven't been taught to use safely, in the proper manner at the proper time. Nothing secretive or hush hush, just wise and compassionate.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 12:08:18 pm »
If you are a parent with children, and have sharp knives in the home, do you not keep them in a safe place and not leave them lying around the kitchen? Isn' t the compassionate thing to keep the knives in the drawer, and teach the child to use them when they are ready? Just so with Vajrayana teachings - untrained persons can get hurt using techniques they haven't been taught to use safely, in the proper manner at the proper time. Nothing secretive or hush hush, just wise and compassionate.
 :anjali:
You're quite right justsit.  :headbow:

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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2011, 07:41:38 pm »
I've heard occasional mentions that there is something to do with the inner winds that is practiced in HYT, but I don't have that level of empowerment so I really don't know. I assume the methods and teachings are there.
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Re: Opening the energy channels
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2011, 09:16:07 pm »
Dear Bamboo,
 I am here to distribute information on a different subject but I can see you have a sincere question that needs answering.

 There is a subject that is covered in the Lam Rim I believe, and a few other teaching texts that is usually translated as mental and physical pliancy.

 Both of these have to do with the winds being balanced and serviceable. When you have mental pliancy your mind is content and doesn't wander much, you can direct it on one object with ease and stay on that object. When you have physical pliancy your body is at ease, it feels light and pleasant and you could sit all day long if you choose without hardship or fatigue.

 Make no mistake, these two states are not restricted to HYT, but rather are necessity of achieving calm abiding. There are many things you can do because there are many causes of mental disturbances and physical pain but the best one I believe is to intentionally cultivate a good attitude towards what you are doing first, recognize it will be hard, and you may sit all day in agony even and be content with that. This will give you mental pliancy if it is strong enough to quell the 5 hindrances. Physical pliancy is said to come after mental pliancy and I believe this is completely true, because without mental pliancy you will be in such misery every time you hear a noise or feel a pain! But if you sit with good posture, perhaps a brick underneath your tail bone, with a content mind, breathing in thinking of pleasant feelings, breathing out relaxing, the winds will become serviceable, your body will become light and pleasant and you will be able to start doing the real work of meditation with ease.

 I hope this answers your question and is useful. This is after all the methodology used by all mediators in Theraveda, Mahayana, and even Vajrayana and when you get down to it there is no short cut to calm abiding.

 Thank you very much for the chance to share what I know.
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