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Offline Melodious Conch

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The Person Whose Bounty Is Greater than the Buddha
« on: February 23, 2016, 07:38:01 pm »
 :r4wheel:Khenpo Tamgrin Rinpoche:

In Buddhist sutras there is such a case. A man was learning from an Arhat, who is one of the Buddha’s disciples. When he saw the Buddha the first time, his Guru was there, too. He prostrated to his Guru first, then to the Buddha. The Buddha commended him: you should do like this.

For self, the bounty of the Guru and spiritual friends is greater than that of the Buddha. Although the merits of the Buddha and those of the Guru or the spiritual friends may be equal, the bounty of them is different.

Who led you to become a Buddhist? Who made you understand these truths? They are actually your Guru and your spiritual friends! And who let you be liberated? Who let you be accomplished? They are actually your Guru and your spiritual friends too. So, the bounty of the Guru and the spiritual friends is much bigger than that of the Buddha. All the Gurus and spiritual friends with qualities are one, however, each person has his own Guru and spiritual friends he relies on, therefore he should follow his own Guru and spiritual friends.

Many people will start to be tempted, and will abandon their own Gurus and spiritual friends once hearing the name of “Dharma king” or a “Tulku” with high reputation. Such people even lack of the basic standard of being a man. The manners of being a man are the basis of the manners of being a Buddha. If you cannot be a good man, how can you be a Buddha? Without a good personality, how can you have merits? Without merits, how can you accomplish? So as a human being, one should have the mind of gratitude and devotion. These two types of mind are of great importance. If you are double minded or have a foot in both camps, how can you still have the mind of devotion?

Of course, this is not to say that there are no other great masters except for our own Guru. In this world there are many great masters and many reincarnations of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, but you cannot run after two horses at the same time. How can you accomplish if mind so much? So, one should be single-minded and whole-hearted. According to the words in the worldly language, it is single-minded; In Buddhistic language, it is whole-hearted. Only upon this basis, we can really accumulate merits.


Offline Lobster

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Re: The Person Whose Bounty Is Greater than the Buddha
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 05:47:53 am »
When bowing to the Guru, one is bowing to the Buddha. It is not a question of first or last or intermediary. Accordingly if like many of us beginners, we bow to self, then Guru, then Buddha there is no sense of heirarchy in the three jewels. That is for the bent.


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Re: The Person Whose Bounty Is Greater than the Buddha
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 09:47:01 pm »
i'd argue that the guru etc. are also more worldly things, and more interactable. As I just posted elsewhere I don't think that anyone can ever have a a relationship personally with Buddha Shakyamuni in the way one can with a guru or the lineage masters. As the bodhisattvas are still in the world, supplication and interaction with them obviously would reap more benefit.


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