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Offline Ngawang Drolma

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2010, 09:43:07 am »
Pertaining to my request for TMingyur to make a distinction? not really. Everything you mentioned is pretty much basic Vajrayana, and I am not contending with this at all. I am asking for TMingyur to explain why they are not the same.

Pardon the misunderstanding, I was writing to the OP which I didn't quote.

I do tend to be general though, as in the past I've made mistakes and posted things that were could affect samaya.  So general is my rule, now.  However others should post away as they see fit!  :)

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Laura

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2010, 09:45:30 am »
Thank you for responding. I wasn't sure if that was in response to me or not.  :namaste:

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2010, 09:58:00 am »
Thank you for responding. I wasn't sure if that was in response to me or not.  :namaste:

I should have quoted.  When you wrote back I became confuzzled!   :teehee:
Thanks for your patience.

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Laura

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 08:24:56 pm »
I know some of you may be confused by Laura's vocabulary. Today she used the term "confuzzled" which I doubt you will find in the Oxford English Dictionary.


However, a picture is worth a thousand words, so here is a picture of Laura being confuzzled.


Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

Offline Ngawang Drolma

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 06:41:49 am »
:lol:

And when in doubt here is the proper dictionary to which you can refer:

www.PsuedoDictionary.com


The word for today is nordling.

nordling - To talk to yourself within earshot of others, but about nothing in particular.

e.g., A. What did you say? B. Ah, nothing. I'm just nordling.

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 06:53:24 am »
Tibetan Buddhism IS Vajrayana?  Vajrayana is not Tibetan Buddhism but it is practiced by Tibetan Buddhists?  Are lineages Nyingma,Kagyu,Sakya,Gelug all synonymous with Vajrayana practice or do only some members of these lineages practice Vajrayana? Can someone explain this to me?  It might be so obvious I've missed it...  :daydream:

Okay, so to try to get to this again in the simplest terms possible.  My first response was sort of long-winded.  Tibetan Buddhism doesn't necessarily mean Vajrayana although people often consider them to be synonymous.  Tibetan Buddhism in general has a variety of methods and not all of them are esoteric.  Vajrayana, which means the diamond vehicle, includes practicing with a guru, receiving initiation, and using a variety of tantric methods.  Vajrayana is an uncommon form of Mahayana.  Tantrayāna includes esoteric teachings, rituals and visualizations aimed at quickly attaining enlightenment.

If my explanation contains errors please don't hesitate to jump in.

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Laura

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Re: Tibetan Buddhism and Vajrayana
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 10:48:31 am »
Part of the problem is in the use of the terms themselves.

Vajrayana and Tantra are no essentially Tibetan, Mongolian, Nepalese, Bhutanese etc.

The tantric path exists in Japan, for example.

This Wiki article isn't bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana

I think we also need to separate the schools from the activity.

As Laura said, not all Tibetans practice Vajrayana, as they may still be on the path of sutrayana.

Only those who enter the Tantric path are practising Vajrayana IMHO - until then they are Mahayana.


 


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