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Offline francis

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Re: Craving for Non-Existence
« Reply #120 on: August 06, 2017, 07:40:53 am »
The majority of people considering themselves or calling themselves Buddhist or influenced by things they called Buddhist rejected Non-Existence as Nirvana or PariNirvana and considered Nirvana to be a perpetual state of non-flux and wakefulness, devoid of death and ups and downs sleeping waking etc, so a stable state of solid ongoing perfection, not total Annhilation which can not be experienced, it was believed to be experiential reality an attainable experience.

There is writing which fully and explicitly rejects "craving non-existence" and for most of the generations of people associating with Buddhism, Non-Existence was never thought to be the goal, but ongoing Awakened goodness, peace, and tranquility which has gone beyond painful and disturbing flux.

There are also writings which fully and explicitly reject "craving" for existence.
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Re: Craving for Non-Existence
« Reply #121 on: August 06, 2017, 12:03:38 pm »
The majority of people considering themselves or calling themselves Buddhist or influenced by things they called Buddhist rejected Non-Existence as Nirvana or PariNirvana and considered Nirvana to be a perpetual state of non-flux and wakefulness, devoid of death and ups and downs sleeping waking etc, so a stable state of solid ongoing perfection, not total Annhilation which can not be experienced, it was believed to be experiential reality an attainable experience.

There is writing which fully and explicitly rejects "craving non-existence" and for most of the generations of people associating with Buddhism, Non-Existence was never thought to be the goal, but ongoing Awakened goodness, peace, and tranquility which has gone beyond painful and disturbing flux.

There are also writings which fully and explicitly reject "craving" for existence.

Yes, very true. So what is in between those two? Neither existence in the sense of this existence of destructive flux and death and time, notions connected in the word Kal for example, and not total annhilation of all experience whatsoever which would be Non-Existence? What is in between those two extremes is the elimination of time sense, death fear, flux experience. What is in the middle is perpetuity, freedom from time, freedom from death, to be safe and fearless and not dying or running out of time or exhausting resources like karma calories.

 


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