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Offline daimond

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how the foods share inside sangha in the Buddha time?
« on: March 25, 2011, 07:24:45 am »
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No. 5.
TAṆḌULANĀLI-JĀTAKA.

"Dost ask how much a peck of rice is worth?"--This was told by the Master, whilst at Jetavana, about the Elder Udāyi, called the Dullard.

At that time the reverend Dabba, the Mallian, was manciple to the Brotherhood 1. When in the early morning Dabba was allotting the checks for rice, sometimes it was choice rice and sometimes it was an inferior quality which fell to the share of the Elder Udāyi. On days when he received the inferior quality, he used to make a commotion in the check-room, by demanding, "Is Dabba the only one who knows how to give out checks? Don't we know?" One day when he was making a commotion, they handed him the check-basket, saying, "Here! you give the checks out yourself to-day!" Thenceforth, it was Udāyi who gave out the checks to the Brotherhood. But, in his distribution, he could not tell the best from the inferior rice; nor did he know what seniority 2 was entitled to the best rice and what to the inferior. So too, when he was making out the roster, he had not an idea of the seniority of the Brethren thereon. Consequently, when the Brethren took up their places, he made a mark on the ground or on the wall to shew that one detachment stood here, and another there. Next day there were fewer Brethren of one grade and more of another in the check-room; where there were fewer, the mark was too low down; where the number was greater, it was too high up. But Udāyi, quite ignorant of detachments, gave out the checks simply according to his old marks.

Hence, the Brethren said to him, "Friend Udāyi, the mark is too high up or too low down; the best rice is for those of such and such seniority, and the inferior quality for such and such others." But he put them back with the argument, "If this mark is where it is, what are you standing here for? Why am I to trust you? It's my mark I trust."

Then, the boys and novices [124] thrust him from the check-room, crying, "Friend Udāyi the Dullard, when you give out the checks, the Brethren are docked of what they ought to get; you're not fit to give them out; get you gone from here." Hereupon, a great uproar arose in the check-room.

Hearing the noise, the Master asked the Elder Ānanda, saying, "Ānanda, there is a great uproar in the check-room. What is the noise about?"

The Elder explained it all to the Buddha. "Ānanda," said he, "this is not the only time when Udāyi by his stupidity has robbed others of their profit; he did just the same thing in bygone times too."

The Elder asked the Blessed One for an explanation, and the Blessed One made clear what had been concealed by re-birth.


http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/j1/j1008.htm

I must said i still confuse read the blue written? how the rice share in the Buddha time. (could some one explain what written in the blue color?)

I must said the story have strangeness as like in the red color, did you think this happened in sangha?if this happend to regular people or lay people that natural or did't have strangeness but this happened in sangha, if member in sangha in the story maybe from beginner to seniority are arahat did you think this problem would appears? we eat the foods for life, not life to eat the foods. so why when we eaten the rice for life the quality of the rice become a problem in this story?

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Offline catmoon

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Re: how the foods share inside sangha in the Buddha time?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 02:41:58 pm »
It really does make one wonder why they didn't just mix all the rice up in a pot and share it out equally.
Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

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Re: how the foods share inside sangha in the Buddha time?
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 03:00:28 pm »
Rice was highly regarded, extensively graded, and viewed as a sign of wealth, status and social standing.  We always find a way to discriminate, even for the smallest or simplest things .....
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Re: how the foods share inside sangha in the Buddha time?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 06:27:53 am »
well the translate word in english make it difficult to understand. Right now i have known the rice offring they accept are already boiled so the from are diffrent from the rice before boiled (raw rice in indonesia called as Beras, after boiled it call as Nasi).

The term in this teks refer to Nasi ( the rice already cook(boiled)).

 


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