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Offline ABC

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Jhana lunatic
« on: May 09, 2010, 09:23:36 am »
Hi

I was listening to
this
You Tube.

The man seems to be saying the goal of the Buddhist path is jhana.

 ;D
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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 10:05:22 am »
Hi

I was listening to this You Tube.

The man seems to be saying the goal of the Buddhist path is jhana.

 ;D


I read as far as his claim about the '8th fold' of the 8-fold path. So, a bit like the number of pleats in a skirt, then.

If he hasn't even grasped what '8-fold' means, there's not much hope for the rest.

And he's calling himself 'Jhananda'.  Hmm.

I think reading the first couple of paragraphs represents enough time I should devote to him. LOL :)

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 10:31:47 am »
As best as I understand it... if one has not achieved jhana, then that is a worthwhile goal of practice. If one has achieved jhana, then a worthwhile goal is detaching from jhana.

Lately, I've been working on not falling asleep during my 6 am meditations, and not falling asleep during my 10 pm meditations. If I accomplish this, jhana is somewhere on my to-do list.   :cheesy:

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 10:14:17 pm »
Hi,

in M111 one can find all the details about all Jhanas.
On Ven. Vimalaramsi's site you find fifteen Dhamma talks commenting this sutta.

Metta, always,
Mirco  :)

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 09:48:49 am »
Since the Jhanna's are but various samsaric realms within the 31 Planes of Existence, The Jhannas are not "the goal".   Nibanna is the goal as I understand it, not the Jhannas.

Hi

I was listening to this You Tube.

The man seems to be saying the goal of the Buddhist path is jhana.

 ;D
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-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 04:05:24 pm »
Since the Jhanna's are but various samsaric realms within the 31 Planes of Existence, The Jhannas are not "the goal".   Nibanna is the goal as I understand it, not the Jhanas.

That's true. But you went through all of them 'till you experience Nibbana.

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 05:23:11 pm »
Thanks, Mirco, for your confidence in me.  However, it is undeserved.  I still have trouble keeping my mind focused on my breath let alone entering and going through all the Jhanna's.   :gawrsh:

Since the Jhanna's are but various samsaric realms within the 31 Planes of Existence, The Jhannas are not "the goal".   Nibanna is the goal as I understand it, not the Jhanas.

That's true. But you went through all of them 'till you experience Nibbana.
What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: Jhana lunatic
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 02:53:12 am »
Thanks, Mirco, for your confidence in me.  However, it is undeserved.  I still have trouble keeping my mind focused on my breath let alone entering and going through all the Jhanas.   :gawrsh:


Hi Ron,

maybe the teachings of Venerable Vimalaramsi might be of help for you. --> http://www.dhammasukha.org/

He's an very Jhana-expert and teaches in an easy understandable way in plain english all aspects of DO
Ask him at --> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dhammasukha/

It starts with smiling.

Metta, always,
Mirco :)

 


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