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Offline aram

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« on: March 17, 2013, 09:15:57 pm »
hi,
   i'm wondering if any of you have facility in jhana or maggas/phalas and do not live on a meditation center; e.g. are in school, or working. if so, what are your lives like? what do you do and what don't you do? how often do you meditate, where do you meditate, and how do you meditate? you can pm me if you'd like. thanks!
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Re: Lives of Advanced Practitioners
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 10:19:34 pm »
If you're looking to read about the lives of advanced practitioners, perhaps better to read their biographies:

Master Hsu Yun - one of the greatest Chan Masters of our recent times:
http://www.drbachinese.org/online_reading/sf_others/VM_HsuYun_Bio_01/contents.htm

Ajahn Mun - one of the great Thai Meditation Masters:
http://www.luangta.com/English/site/book8_biomun.html

Mae Chee Kaew - a nun in the Thai Forest Tradition:
http://www.dhammatalks.net/Books9/Bhikkhu_Silaratano_Mae-Chee-Kaew_Spiritual_Awakening.pdf

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Re: Lives of Advanced Practitioners
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 04:50:06 am »
You must define "Advanced Practitioners" first, otherwise it is hard to give examples.

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 06:49:23 am »
You must define "Advanced Practitioners" first, otherwise it is hard to give examples.

Yes, "advanced" is a very relative term. :wink1:

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 10:19:46 am »
i said has facility with jhana, or has higher maggas/phalas and doesn't live on monastery or retreat center but in the world somehow

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 10:35:10 am »
hi,
   i'm wondering if any of you have facility in jhana or maggas/phalas and do not live on a meditation center; e.g. are in school, or working. if so, what are your lives like? what do you do and what don't you do? how often do you meditate, where do you meditate, and how do you meditate? you can pm me if you'd like. thanks!
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I don't think there's anyone on this board that fit's that description, but here are certainly those who aspire to such levels of practice.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 10:58:11 am »
i wonder then if there are any lay people here who (for more than a few months) have kept the 8 precepts (i don't care about no meals after 12 thing) in their daily lives. if so, then i would direct the above questions to them.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 11:06:30 am »
i wonder then if there are any lay people here who (for more than a few months) have kept the 8 precepts (i don't care about no meals after 12 thing) in their daily lives. if so, then i would direct the above questions to them.

Now that - people keeping the 8 precepts - is another thing.  There may be people here with those qualifications.  The 5 precepts have been thoroughly discussed and there have been discussions about the 8 precepts as well.  However, you should keep in mind that keeping precepts is not the same thing as having attained jhnanas, etc.

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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 11:32:58 am »
well if no one 'has' the other things, then i have to ask about sila. sila =/= jhana or maggas/phalas but sets conditions for it. so if you have perfect sila for long enough, it's going to be easier to have jhana etc.

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 01:40:44 pm »
Hmmm... Personally, I only discuss attainments with a teacher, and I am suspicious of anyone who would broadcast such a claim on an Internet forum.

As to sila, I am equally reluctant to make any auspicious claims on an Internet forum. I live mostly by eight precepts, but allow myself evening meals or entertainments when those behaviors serve a social function, i.e. allow me to remain integrated into my community.

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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 02:06:18 pm »
that's a good point; the internet is not a teacher. still i am interested in what aspects of your life you've had to change to keep the 8 precepts as it were. this could include anything from growing older, to quitting certain things, to changing certain things, etc. who is your teacher? what is your community? i said anyone who didn't want to post here could pm me. i'd appreciate hearing about these things.
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Re: Lives of Advanced Practitioners
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2013, 07:55:43 am »
'Advanced practitioners' have their own agendas and do not respond to requests for your appreciation.

This may sound harsh but you are big enough to appreciate its veracity.

The question is why are you asking? How can it possibly benefit you if someone is advanced, a beginner, fraud or Buddha of the Month?

If you want to know if people are on the Middle Way and verifying its efficacy for themselves, the answer is yes. :namaste:

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 09:57:59 am »
i'm wondering how you live and what u do that allows you to sustain practice at that level

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 01:11:52 pm »
e.g. what kind of careers these people have, and what they do outside of them other than meditate. 

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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2013, 01:44:40 pm »
Aram,

I think I may understand you question, this may be because of my novice status.  I hope this may answer some of what you were asking.  Personally I have not had to change much of what you could term external life.  The change was in my thoughts, my concepts and that led to changes in behavior.  To be honest, much of what I was already doing was inline because of non spiritual reasons (health, circumstance, etc...) I think if you pursue the path you won't have to change anything, you want to, or you stop doing it, or you see the silliness of it.  Like I said, I do not claim advanced or any Buddha rank at all.  I am also often wrong.  I hope I answered something in what I think you were asking

 


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