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Offline Spiny Norman

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Mindfulness and insight
« on: February 19, 2010, 06:14:10 am »
I've been using these recently as an aid to insight meditation and would welcome any thoughts you have.  They're based on the Satipatthana Sutta and can be used in and out of meditation.
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BODY - be aware of:
1. Postures
2. Contents of body eg the elements
3. Bodily sensations
4. Senses and objects eg eye consciousness and form
5. Impermanence of the body ie ageing and death
6. Generally the body as biochemical process

MIND - be aware of:
1. State of mind
2. Thoughts and feelings
3. Craving and aversion
4. 5 hindrances
5. 5 aggregates
6. Generally the mind as a process of dependent arising

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Re: Mindfulness and insight
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 07:21:32 am »
Hi, Spiny.

All of these would be helpful in keeping mind in present moment and from wandering.

Recently, during meditations (I)'ve noticed that my mind has been very clear, empty of extraneous thoughts and ruminations, which is what (I) experienced when beginning to practice.  (I) haven't seen or experienced any of The Jhanas as yet, but (I) really don't have any such as a goal.  (I) am at peace with the lack of mental fermentations as currently experienced.

My big problem is "fear of leg cramps and abdominal cramps" and my butt inevitably let's me know when (I)'ve been sitting too long.  Therefore I prefer sitting on a cushioned chair rather than trying to force my old legs into a lotus position, or even a half lotus, which now seems to be giving me problems at this point.  Starting back with a yoga class in a few weeks.  Perhaps this will help with my flexibility and pressure point pains.

Where it goes from here is where it goes from here.   :om:
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Re: Mindfulness and insight
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 07:47:41 am »
Therefore I prefer sitting on a cushioned chair rather than trying to force my old legs into a lotus position, or even a half lotus, which now seems to be giving me problems at this point. 

I've been using a chair for a while - my knee joints were objecting to half-lotus!  I think a chair is fine providing you keep your back straight.

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Re: Mindfulness and insight
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 09:38:51 am »
Just thought that you might want to know that, after three weeks of yoga (gentle) for old farts like me, my flexibility has all but returned.  Which confirms the old saying:  "If you don't use it you lose it!"

Hi, Spiny.

All of these would be helpful in keeping mind in present moment and from wandering.

Recently, during meditations (I)'ve noticed that my mind has been very clear, empty of extraneous thoughts and ruminations, which is what (I) experienced when beginning to practice.  (I) haven't seen or experienced any of The Jhanas as yet, but (I) really don't have any such as a goal.  (I) am at peace with the lack of mental fermentations as currently experienced.

My big problem is "fear of leg cramps and abdominal cramps" and my butt inevitably let's me know when (I)'ve been sitting too long.  Therefore I prefer sitting on a cushioned chair rather than trying to force my old legs into a lotus position, or even a half lotus, which now seems to be giving me problems at this point.  Starting back with a yoga class in a few weeks.  Perhaps this will help with my flexibility and pressure point pains.

Where it goes from here is where it goes from here.   :om:
What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: Mindfulness and insight
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 05:42:06 am »
Just thought that you might want to know that, after three weeks of yoga (gentle) for old farts like me, my flexibility has all but returned.  Which confirms the old saying:  "If you don't use it you lose it!"

That's good.  :) I was thinking of doing some yoga again myself, the trouble is I find it so boring...

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Re: Mindfulness and insight
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 03:05:14 pm »
I also (as a more senior practitioner) suffer knee pain in my left knee,
after about 20mins, usually just as things are getting interesting, and have to shift position. I do this almost unconsciously now.
I also practice Tai Chi to maintain some flexibility, and good balance.
It seems to work for me. Yoga is just as good though but if you find it a bit too quiet, Tai Chi is a (little) more lively! 

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