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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2011, 05:05:08 am »
Puhh... have you ever observed whats going on in your self when you abstain from expressing your movie. Does it still run? And how do you feel if you have no possibility to express it? *smile*
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2011, 05:13:15 am »
Puhh... have you ever observed whats going on in your self when you abstain from expressing your movie.
So far the self has not been found, so where could the movie be located?

Does it still run? And how do you feel if you have no possibility to express it?
Now listen ... what is "running" is called "perception", "feeling", "consciousness", "volitional formations" and "body".
These are expressions of arising and ceasing ... whether there is utterance of words or not.


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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2011, 05:17:13 am »
And my question was, had you ever try to close the last door and let the thoughts eating them self? *smile*
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Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
Hate (dosa)...............................................................Greed...........................................................Color
Angry......................................................................smitten.............................................................red
Cynically(high-spirited)...........................................arrogating (claiming)....................................orange
apologetically...........................................................suppliantly.........................................................pink
Shyly.........................................................................sad.................................................................green
Off - Topic..................................................................=....................................................................blue
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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2011, 05:24:21 am »
And my question was, had you ever try to close the last door and let the thoughts eating them self? *smile*
If there is no clinging they are vanishing effortlessly.

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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2011, 05:32:36 am »
Or simply fear *smile* "What would I make with all the fabrications if there is no way to express? So lets use it in a good way to help others."
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Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
Hate (dosa)...............................................................Greed...........................................................Color
Angry......................................................................smitten.............................................................red
Cynically(high-spirited)...........................................arrogating (claiming)....................................orange
apologetically...........................................................suppliantly.........................................................pink
Shyly.........................................................................sad.................................................................green
Off - Topic..................................................................=....................................................................blue
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« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2011, 05:36:28 am »
Or simply fear *smile*
This is a product of thought and therefore it also vanishes effortlessly if there is no clinging.


"What would I make with all the fabrications if there is no way to express? So lets use it in a good way to help others."
Yes. Do you feel the help I am giving to you? :)

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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2011, 05:48:51 am »
 <3  :jinsyx: *smile*
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Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
Hate (dosa)...............................................................Greed...........................................................Color
Angry......................................................................smitten.............................................................red
Cynically(high-spirited)...........................................arrogating (claiming)....................................orange
apologetically...........................................................suppliantly.........................................................pink
Shyly.........................................................................sad.................................................................green
Off - Topic..................................................................=....................................................................blue
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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2011, 08:05:32 am »
Now listen ... what is "running" is called "perception", "feeling", "consciousness", "volitional formations" and "body".

That's a pretty good definition of anatta. :wink1:

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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2011, 06:18:54 pm »
So we are all connected by non-soul?

Yes, we are all connected by the fact that there is no such thing as a complete seperate spirit with in a single living being,  but an enormouse spirit which is connected to every living being. :dharma:

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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2011, 07:53:12 pm »
Here is a collection of wrong views: The All-embracing Net of Views

Maybe you like to look for your self, which one you have been taught to (or misunderstood). *smile* Its quite normal that there are various Hindu ideas mixed with what the Buddha taught.
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Googlyana Mindfulness practicing
Hate (dosa)...............................................................Greed...........................................................Color
Angry......................................................................smitten.............................................................red
Cynically(high-spirited)...........................................arrogating (claiming)....................................orange
apologetically...........................................................suppliantly.........................................................pink
Shyly.........................................................................sad.................................................................green
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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2011, 06:51:36 am »
Yes, we are all connected by the fact that there is no such thing as a complete seperate spirit with in a single living being,  but an enormouse spirit which is connected to every living being. :dharma:

I haven't come across this as a Buddhist teaching.

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« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2011, 07:01:15 am »
So we are all connected by non-soul?

Yes, we are all connected by the fact that there is no such thing as a complete seperate spirit with in a single living being,  but an enormouse spirit which is connected to every living being. :dharma:

There are different types of "being connected":
1) Visible or observable causal ones, such as leaves being connected to the branch of a tree. Such type of connections seem to be validly called "connections" because everyone with sound eyes can see the connection.
Or a tree being connected to the seed it arose from. This mere causal but observable "connection" is observable on the time scale.
I guess this is not the sense of our being connected, right?


2) Connections that are thought of or visualized by thought:
Some religions may conceive of one spirit pervading and thus connecting all beings. But people who do not follow these religions may reject this idea because it is a mere idea, a fantasy. You may believe or you may not believe it.

3) Connections of causal conceptual dependency:
The thought "day" which is a conceptual determination and excludes that which is not "day" depends on the thought "night" which is the opposite of "day", stands for that which is not "day". So the thoughts "day" and "night" as names are connected.
Or the determining thought "you" that I may have referring to you, chris98e, depends on my knowing that there are many things other than "you", e.g. the car parking before the house I am living in, or the tree in the park across the street. So in fact everything I can conceive of is causally inter-connected because when conceptually determining one thing or you as "chris98e" through naming it I am implicitely excluding all other things and persons that are contained in my conceptual "knowledge pool". So in the sphere of my conceptual experience everything (animate or inanimate) is connected.
Or I conceive of "you" being other than "me" (which corresponds to actuality and makes possible our communication) then we are connected causally on a conceptual level because through conceiving of "you" I am implicitely conceiving of "me".
Also everything you are writing which I then read causes meaning to arise in my mind. Every meaning that arises in my mind leaves a subtle trace behind. The same holds true for what I write and the meanings your mind produces upon contacting the written. In that way we are connected.

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Re: Observing the 3 characteristics
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2011, 07:00:33 am »
Then there are connections based upon schedule or completion of prerequisites such as subway connections, or air flight connections in the prior case, or completion of courses in the case of college degree completion, or following The Noble Eight Fold Path in the case of unbinding and release for attainment of nibbana.
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