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Offline Su Onn

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progress after death
« on: October 22, 2015, 05:05:28 am »
lets say a practitioner has already made some progress along the path, but still he is not liberated from suffering ( not a stream-enterer).
If he or she passes away, does the progress he/she obtained loss together with death? or the progress is brought over to the future rebirth?

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Re: progress after death
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 09:58:17 am »
Excellent question.  I listened to a lecture given by an old friend of HHDL, Dr. Robert Thurman, in which he explained that a being reborn with past knowledge of The Dhamma can be refined.  Buddha is said to have experience the same process in The Jataka Tales.
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Re: progress after death
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 07:12:24 pm »
As my knowledge and my own analysis of Buddhism, I would say yes to your question. I am going to point out 2 examples that somehow help you understand this continuous progress. After suffering extreme accident your brain gets strike you forget most things happened before. You want to recover your memory so you must practice to restore it. Like a USB/ hard drive, each of our souls have an "infinite storage". In other words, when you unplug an USB from a computer and insert it to another. This USB saves data of the current device and transfer to the new one and this phenomenon will not stop. The problem is why you cannot remember what you did in the past life. A new computer cannot read data from the USB because it requires certain software, isn’t it? In the real life, you notice there are some people can understand new things very fast meanwhile some cannot. The reason is those people frequently approached these stuffs in their previous life. These seeds just wait to be “reactivated” and grow up. The higher the tree is, the easier we can find and continue to water and take care of it. Assume that you have a large land and one seed under the ground. In someday, you leave then decide to go back after few years, it is very hard to find the seed. Instead of leaving, you stay and wait till the tree is high enough so you can easily know where it is located. Similarly, we should practice Buddhism right now to be able to continue without difficulty in next life. Buddha asked his students: “How long can a person live?” 60 years? 70? Or 80? The answer is in a breath. Hence, do it as soon as possible or you are just wasting time. There is no chance to know if you have other opportunity to approach Buddhism in next life or not. Start practicing to see the right things now or you will sink in “sufferance world”. Hope you find it helpful. Sorry for my bad English but I tried my best to help you truthfully.

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Re: progress after death
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 11:39:38 pm »
Namaste!

As per my experience, there is nothing as 'progress'

You can't say you are progressing.  If you can say this, believe me, you are not going the right direction.

Enlightenment is right before our eyes. It is always present.

So even if you forget everything, there is still 100 percent chance that you will realize the fact anytime, whether in this life or anywhere in future.

The great awakening is ALWAYS PRESENT. You are not going to lose or gain anything!  Study your Buddhism this way and you won't fear losing along the path.

May the Buddhas show us the path!

Namaste!

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Re: progress after death
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2015, 06:12:21 am »
As my knowledge and my own analysis of Buddhism, I would say yes to your question. I am going to point out 2 examples that somehow help you understand this continuous progress. After suffering extreme accident your brain gets strike you forget most things happened before. You want to recover your memory so you must practice to restore it. Like a USB/ hard drive, each of our souls have an "infinite storage". In other words, when you unplug an USB from a computer and insert it to another. This USB saves data of the current device and transfer to the new one and this phenomenon will not stop. The problem is why you cannot remember what you did in the past life. A new computer cannot read data from the USB because it requires certain software, isn’t it? In the real life, you notice there are some people can understand new things very fast meanwhile some cannot. The reason is those people frequently approached these stuffs in their previous life. These seeds just wait to be “reactivated” and grow up. The higher the tree is, the easier we can find and continue to water and take care of it. Assume that you have a large land and one seed under the ground. In someday, you leave then decide to go back after few years, it is very hard to find the seed. Instead of leaving, you stay and wait till the tree is high enough so you can easily know where it is located. Similarly, we should practice Buddhism right now to be able to continue without difficulty in next life. Buddha asked his students: “How long can a person live?” 60 years? 70? Or 80? The answer is in a breath. Hence, do it as soon as possible or you are just wasting time. There is no chance to know if you have other opportunity to approach Buddhism in next life or not. Start practicing to see the right things now or you will sink in “sufferance world”. Hope you find it helpful. Sorry for my bad English but I tried my best to help you truthfully.

Thank you very much for your answer  :dharma:

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Re: progress after death
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2015, 06:13:13 am »
Excellent question.  I listened to a lecture given by an old friend of HHDL, Dr. Robert Thurman, in which he explained that a being reborn with past knowledge of The Dhamma can be refined.  Buddha is said to have experience the same process in The Jataka Tales.

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Re: progress after death
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2015, 06:13:44 am »
Namaste!

As per my experience, there is nothing as 'progress'

You can't say you are progressing.  If you can say this, believe me, you are not going the right direction.

Enlightenment is right before our eyes. It is always present.

So even if you forget everything, there is still 100 percent chance that you will realize the fact anytime, whether in this life or anywhere in future.

The great awakening is ALWAYS PRESENT. You are not going to lose or gain anything!  Study your Buddhism this way and you won't fear losing along the path.

May the Buddhas show us the path!

Namaste!

Appreciate ur help, thank you ;D

 


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