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Reducing attachment to views?
« on: February 17, 2010, 03:27:17 am »
Can anyone recommend a practice specifically aimed at reducing attachment to views?  Thanks.

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 06:06:59 am »
I use the following mantra:

Not mine.  Not me.  Not I.  Not self.

(Repeat for a lifetime.)
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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 06:55:48 am »
I use the following mantra:

Not mine.  Not me.  Not I.  Not self.

(Repeat for a lifetime.)

Yes, thanks.  I make some use of this, perhaps I will develop it.  I'm aware that a lot of what I think is actually complete rubbish and can safely be ignored - or perhaps I'm not aware enough of that yet. :wink1:

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 12:53:52 am »
I adopted the view "The universe is paradoxical:  nothing makes sense", which I sometimes bring to meditation.  It's not about whether it's right or wrong - for me, it is useful, that is all.  For example:  if I notice myself clinging to a belief, I remind myself that there is no reason that I ought to have this belief, and that this belief might as well be any belief.  I then project a different belief in the place of that belief, often a perversion of the original belief, or just something ridiculous.  The belief becomes a joke, sometimes really really funny.  Sometimes I laugh out loud.  Maybe this is way to personal and might not work for others, but who knows?  Give it a shot...

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 11:28:21 am »
A good start would be to see how views arise in the first place. The honey ball sutta describes the process


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Ven. Maha Kaccana said this: "Concerning the brief statement the Blessed One made, after which he went into his dwelling without analyzing the detailed meaning — i.e., 'If, with regard to the cause whereby the perceptions & categories of objectification assail a person, there is nothing there to relish, welcome, or remain fastened to, then that is the end of the obsessions of passion, the obsessions of resistance, the obsessions of views, the obsessions of uncertainty, the obsessions of conceit, the obsessions of passion for becoming, & the obsessions of ignorance. That is the end of taking up rods & bladed weapons, of arguments, quarrels, disputes, accusations, divisive tale-bearing, & false speech. That is where these evil, unskillful things cease without remainder'

"Dependent on eye & forms, eye-consciousness arises. The meeting of the three is contact. With contact as a requisite condition, there is feeling. What one feels, one perceives (labels in the mind). What one perceives, one thinks about. What one thinks about, one objectifies. Based on what a person objectifies, the perceptions & categories of objectification assail him/her with regard to past, present, & future forms cognizable via the eye.

"Dependent on ear & sounds, ear-consciousness arises...

"Dependent on nose & aromas, nose-consciousness arises...

"Dependent on tongue & flavors, tongue-consciousness arises...

"Dependent on body & tactile sensations, body-consciousness arises...

"Dependent on intellect & ideas, intellect-consciousness arises. The meeting of the three is contact. With contact as a requisite condition, there is feeling. What one feels, one perceives (labels in the mind). What one perceives, one thinks about. What one thinks about, one objectifies. Based on what a person objectifies, the perceptions & categories of objectification assail him/her with regard to past, present, & future ideas cognizable via the intellect.



http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.018.than.html

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2010, 03:48:00 am »
A good start would be to see how views arise in the first place. The honey ball sutta describes the process


Thanks. 

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 01:50:38 pm »
In light of recent events here, realizing how much they amplify our suffering and that of others while creating unnecessary conflict and perpetuating deluded, self-righteous, hateful argument.

Who can honestly say they want or enjoy that? Attachment to views is our primary downfall as humans.

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 01:59:30 pm »
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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 08:58:29 am »
Can anyone recommend a practice specifically aimed at reducing attachment to views?  Thanks.

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What do you enjoy doing most now? That's your attachment. Let me name some obvious ones: drinking, gambling, eating, sleeping, sex, etc. So start cutting down on the habits.
Beware of philosophies for the sake of knowledge without actual practice for these philosophies only increase the attachment of 'I.'-Te Cong

What is the definition/essence of meditation of all forms?-Te Cong

Thien la gi? Thien la roi phan biet chap truoc.- Lao Phap Su

You have the recipe. Now make the cake instead of thinking about cake.- La Tao Viec

Thuong Tru Tang Nhu Lai= Knowing the presence of Buddha.

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 01:08:46 am »
Hello Spiny,

This article by Bhikkhu Bodhi might be of interest:
''The Buddha's teaching repeatedly cautions us about the dangers in clinging — in clinging to possessions, clinging to pleasures, clinging to people, clinging to views.
The Buddha sounds such words of warning because he discerns in clinging a potent cause of suffering, and he thus advises us that the price we must pay to arrive at the "far shore" of liberation is the relinquishment of every type of clinging. In a move that at first glance may even seem self-destructive on the part of a religious founder, the Buddha says that we should not cling even to his teachings, that even the wholesome principles of the Dhamma have to be treated like the makeshift raft used to carry us across the stream.'' ...............
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/bodhi/bps-essay_25.html

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 06:43:19 pm »
Can anyone recommend a practice specifically aimed at reducing attachment to views?  Thanks.

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I find Satipatthana very efficient, especially these two:

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And further, monks, a monk lives contemplating mental objects in the mental objects of the five aggregates of clinging.[22]
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And further, monks, a monk lives contemplating mental objects in the mental objects of the six internal and the six external sense-bases.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.010.nysa.html



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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 09:57:48 am »
Can anyone recommend a practice specifically aimed at reducing attachment to views?  Thanks.
Sure. Meditate on death. Pretend you died a couple of hours ago and are in the Bardo. Pretend you are in a totally unknown environment and have no idea what is what. Voila! No more views! Then do whatever practice your were intending to do.

Then in post meditation (normal life) think that it too is an environment that where you don't know what is what. Sound silly? It shouldn't. Why? Because if what the Buddha was talking about was right, all of us that can't see the workings of karma or directly experience emptiness, have got it all wrong hence our views are all wrong.
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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 08:06:27 pm »
Pretend you died a couple of hours ago and are in the Bardo.


Yes!  Thanks for the memories!

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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 08:31:18 pm »
Yes, cloyingness is sometimes the begin for the noble seek *smile* sometimes we are not cloyingness yet. Right view is the forerunner of the noble eightfold path.
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Re: Reducing attachment to views?
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 01:20:31 am »
Yes, cloyingness is sometimes the begin for the noble seek *smile* sometimes we are not cloyingness yet. Right view is the forerunner of the noble eightfold path.

Thank you for this vocabulary word, Hanze:

From Dictionary.com:

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cloy·ing   [kloi-ing]  Show IPA
adjective
1.
causing or tending to cause disgust or aversion through excess: a perfume of cloying sweetness.
2.
overly ingratiating or sentimental.
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