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The exact meaning of "passion"?
« on: July 22, 2012, 11:07:53 am »
In reading through various pali suttas and FAQs I can't seem to find an exact meaning for the word "passion". I get that it's a fetter but what exactly do they mean by this word?

I one met a Theravadan Buddhist who was very alive and sociable. One could say she had a "passion" for living  and treasured every moment. very happy person.

I'm not assuming that subduing passion means we all should be like zombies and not feel anything but I just can't grasp the meaning of this word, no matter what context it's in.

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Re: The exact meaning of "passion"?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 01:53:33 pm »
You may find it interesting to learn that the word "passion" is derived from a greek word meaning "to suffer" as in the so-called "Passion of Christ".

In common use, "passion" often refers to intense, compelling or strong feelings such as with the friend you describe.  In the view of Buddhadharma passion is an extreme and as such produces suffering (regardless of what your Theravedin friend says).

The point is not to become a "zombie", as you put it, but rather to attain a state of equanimity free from extremes.

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Re: The exact meaning of "passion"?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 06:51:34 pm »
emotion or feeling as most describe it           but unreal and an artifact to confuse and cloud   
 
removing the falsity of feelings emotions doesn't make a zombie    like taking silt out of pond   clarity can be realized
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The exact meaning of "passion"?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 09:59:33 pm »
Passion is listed as a fetter, but energetic practice, rapture, compassion, and friendliness are listed as a good things. That should be hint. It might be that your friend models many of the latter qualities.

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Re: The exact meaning of "passion"?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 07:00:37 am »
In reading through various pali suttas and FAQs I can't seem to find an exact meaning for the word "passion". I get that it's a fetter but what exactly do they mean by this word?

I think you mean kama-raga, or "sensual desire", which is closely related to tanha ( craving ), the cause of suffering in the second Noble Truth. 
So passion in this context has that sense of craving for experience - as opposed to enjoying the present.
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Re: The exact meaning of "passion"?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 12:15:15 pm »
All four of you were right on.

I really appreciate it.

Oh, and by the way I found a way to find the definitions online so I don't think I'll need to post questions like these too often,

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