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tipitaka study group
« on: December 01, 2009, 12:47:14 pm »
Anyone interested in studying the Tipitaka, which is the Buddhist cannon, the collection of the Buddha's sermons and commentaries by monks handed down to us over the years?  I'm studying the Tipitaka with some people in my locality, and would like to extend an invitation to people online.  Currently we're studying the Dhammacakkapavattana Suttam. 


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Re: tipitaka study group
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 06:13:16 pm »
I would be very interested in study of the Vissudhimagga or Abhidhamma with others online.

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 06:33:48 pm »
"As long as my knowing and seeing how things are, was not quite purified in these twelve aspects, in these three phases of each of the four noble truths, I did not claim in the world with its gods, its Maras and high divinities, in this generation with its monks and brahmans, with its princes and men to have discovered the full Awakening that is supreme.

But as soon as my knowing and seeing how things are, was quite purified in these twelve aspects, in these three phases of each of the four noble truths, then I claimed in the world with its gods, its Maras and high divinities, in this generation with its monks and brahmans, its princes and men to have discovered the full Awakening that is supreme. Knowing and seeing arose in me thus: 'My heart's deliverance is unassailable.

This is the last birth. Now there is no renewal of being.'"

I still get goose bumps whenever I read this one...very moving and assuring  :namaste:

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Re: tipitaka study group
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 04:46:18 pm »
Count me in :) Just remember I do also have to study for my exams. :) Finals are in two weeks...
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 05:45:09 pm »
Thank you for the interests, and welcome everyone.

As we start, I want to make the disclaimer I'm new to studying from the Tipitaka, and with the Pali.  It's only possible for me recently with available online references.  So I am thankful to people that provide the Dhamma online.

David, what is it that interests you in the Vissudhimagga or Abhidhamma?  Maybe you can plan the next sutta for the group to study?



As we begin, how about we talk about our objectives / expectations?  Mine are:

1) learn the Dhamma, Buddha's teachings at the source, or as close to the source as possible

2) strip away much of the cultural/social and personal filters as possible

3) learn Pali language

4) put into practice the Dhamma in everyday life activities

5) be part of a practicing community

6) create a learning plan for study of the Tipitaka

7) be able to recite from memory the Dhammacakkappavattana Suttam

So what objectives / expectations do you have?



On to study of the Dhammacakkappavattana Suttam (DCPS).  I find it helpful to approach from different ways. 

- Listen regularly to the recitation with the MP3 file, to get used to the sounds, and this will help with pronunciation of the Pali.  It's about 18 mins long.

- Study the English translations and discuss the meaning together.

- Study the Pali language.  http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/ele_pali.pdf

- Don't worry about how long it takes to study any particular sutta.  This isn't a speed contest.

The more I listened, and read along from the Roman/Pali text, the more natural the pronunciations became.  Learning Pali, for me is very helpful to learn the Dhamma, also, combined with meditation / reflection practices, writing, discussions with others.


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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 09:27:12 pm »
Thank you for the interests, and welcome everyone.

As we start, I want to make the disclaimer I'm new to studying from the Tipitaka, and with the Pali.  It's only possible for me recently with available online references.  So I am thankful to people that provide the Dhamma online.

Kudos for starting this up then, I love seeing people strike out on learning all self-taught! Thanks for offering to take us with you. :)


As we begin, how about we talk about our objectives / expectations?  Mine are:

1) learn the Dhamma, Buddha's teachings at the source, or as close to the source as possible

2) strip away much of the cultural/social and personal filters as possible

3) learn Pali language

4) put into practice the Dhamma in everyday life activities

5) be part of a practicing community

6) create a learning plan for study of the Tipitaka

7) be able to recite from memory the Dhammacakkappavattana Suttam

So what objectives / expectations do you have?



I wouldn't mind learning some pali words better so I can translate in my head a little, some prayers maybe. I generally just want to really kick-start some real study that doesn't come out of Buddhism for Dummies :P
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 02:19:54 pm »
Hello, how is your study going?

I put together a list of Pali terms and English translations from Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta:

dhammacakkappavattana sutta - sermon of the doctrine that sets the wheel in motion

dhamma - 1) to hold, "that which upholds", law, 2) teachings, doctrine, 3) moral, natural, 4) things, events, phenomena, 5) teachings of Buddha [that liberates beings from the grip of suffering].
cakka - wheel
ppavattana - set rolling, set in motion
sutta - sermon

pabbajitena (pabbajjà) - gone forth, going forth
na sevitabbā - not to be practiced
sevitabbā - to be practiced
antā - ends, extremes

bhagavā - the Blessed One (refers to Buddha)
bhikkhave, bhikkhū - mendicant, monk
ariya, ariyo - noble
anariya, anariyo - not noble

cakkhu-karaṇī - vision producing
ñāṇa-karaṇī - knowledge producing
upasamāya - calm

abhiññāya - direct knowledge
sambodhāya - awakening
nibbānāya - unbinding

majjhimā - middle, medium
paṭipadā - path+foot, "way of practice"

aá¹­á¹­haá¹…giko - eightfold, eight + "pertaining to"
aá¹­á¹­ha - eight
magga, maggo - road, path

the noble eightfold paths are:
1) sammā-diṭṭhi, 2) sammā-saṅkappo, 3) sammā-vācā, 4) sammā-kammanto, 5) sammā-ājīvo, 6) sammā-vāyāmo, 7) sammā-sati, 8) sammā-samādhi

sammā-diṭṭhi - right view
sammā-saṅkappo - right resolve
sammā-vācā - right speech
sammā-kammanto - right action
sammā-ājīvo - right livelihood
sammā-vāyāmo - right effort
sammā-sati - right mindfulness
sammā-samādhi - right concentration

the four noble truths are:
1) dukkho, 2) dukkha-samudayo, 3) dukkha-nirodho, 4) dukkha-nirodha-gāminī-paṭipadā

dukkha, dukkho - pain, suffering
dukkha-samudayo - suffering origination
dukkha-nirodho - suffering cessation of
dukkha-nirodha-gāminī-paṭipadā - suffering+cessation+leading+path, "way of practice leading to end of suffering"

ariya-saccanti - noble truth
sacca - truth

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