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Offline santamonicacj

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Onions and mantras
« on: February 04, 2010, 08:17:33 pm »
Has anybody else heard that onions and garlic reduce the efficacy of mantras? I've heard that but I love them and the idea that they are limiting my practice is killing me.

Onion rings, anyone? :lipsseald:
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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 09:04:55 pm »
My understanding is that those foods can encourage unwholesome emotions such as aggression.   Sometimes before certain empowerments or practices you're advised to avoid them.  I hope this helps  :)

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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 11:41:27 pm »
I've also heard they can increase lust.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 11:42:57 pm »
I've also heard they can increase lust.

Thank you SW, that too  :)

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2010, 02:16:59 am »
I've also heard they can increase lust.
Thank you SW, that too  :)
If they worked as aphrodisiacs more people would have them as their regular diet!
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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 02:31:35 am »
I can't seem to cook a thing that doesn't involve garlic.   :whistle:

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 02:57:49 am »
I consulted the foremost expert on garlic in Europe, Count Vlad of Transylvania, and he agrees that they are definitely an obstacle to practice. ;)

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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 10:42:36 am »
I'm not sure about the efficacy of Mantras, but I know from Toxicology 101 that garlic is a chelating agent for lead, and is the reason why servants in ancient Rome survived while eating garlic off of lead plates, and drinking water from lead pipes, while their owners and the owner's children went insane from neurological problems due to lead. :wacky:

Learn more about lead poisoning in Rome:  http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/wine/leadpoisoning.html

Onions are known to be an excellent astringent, especially helpful with hemorrhoids and bee stings.  My father swore by them at age eighty-four.  (You don't want to know!)  :eek:

Learn more about the medicinal use of onions:
http://www.vegetarian-nutrition.info/updates/onions.php

Learn more about treatment of hemorrhoids with onions:

http://www.herballegacy.com/Hemorrhoids.html
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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 10:58:26 am »


Raw onion chopped up removes the smell of newly applied paint. It also seems to create no onion smell.

I've no idea if mantras work as well in eliminating odours, except of course during a 'poo jar'! LOL :)

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 11:11:08 am »
Learn more about treatment of hemorrhoids with onions:

http://www.herballegacy.com/Hemorrhoids.html

That website recommended Cayenne Ointment for hemorrhoids. Ouch!
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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2010, 11:33:23 am »
I've heard that onions and garlic are ok if you are chanting on your own...

But not so good in a group! :cheesy:

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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 12:01:08 pm »
I can give up a lot of things, but onions and garlic, I don't know.  That's tough!
Onions make a meal!  And it goes without saying that garlic is just so darn yummy.

Thanks for consulting the expert, Yeshe   :teehee:

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 12:06:30 pm »
Onions, garlic, mmmmmmm.......

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 01:00:47 am »
I spoke to my root lamas about this a while back, and they said that avoiding onions, garlic, and the several other pungent herbs & spices is part and parcel with Sutrayana and Lower tantric practice (kriya, upa, and yoga tantra), but that practitioners of Anuttarayoga tantra are not restricted in what they can eat, as far as practice is concerned, because we're supposed to be taking our emotions and all experiences on the path. But then again, they have said before that if one's stability to do that is not yet what it could be, reducing consumption of, or avoiding, these herbs and spices and eating more mild foods can calm one's energies a bit and reduce the turbulence in one's meditation.
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Re: Onions and mantras
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 01:34:27 am »
I spoke to my root lamas about this a while back, and they said that avoiding onions, garlic, and the several other pungent herbs & spices is part and parcel with Sutrayana and Lower tantric practice (kriya, upa, and yoga tantra), but that practitioners of Anuttarayoga tantra are not restricted in what they can eat, as far as practice is concerned, because we're supposed to be taking our emotions and all experiences on the path. But then again, they have said before that if one's stability to do that is not yet what it could be, reducing consumption of, or avoiding, these herbs and spices and eating more mild foods can calm one's energies a bit and reduce the turbulence in one's meditation.
Hey, I drove myself nuts with a bona fide substance abuse problem a while back. If calming one's energies is the entire issue then I think I can handle an order of onion rings without loosing my cool. Or if necessary I'll just drink one less cup of coffee.

BTW thanks for the info. I know it sounded silly, and it was silly, but it was a real question and the only lamas I have confidence in are not in proximity.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 01:50:41 am by santamonicacj »
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