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Offline Alexey

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1 kg of meat =
« on: August 19, 2013, 12:41:49 am »
From "Le Monde":

1kg of meat = 16kg cereales
1kg of meat = take the surface able to produse 160kg of patatoes
1kg of meat = produce same quantity of carbon (CO2) as 60 km travel in car
1kg of meat = 71 litres of essence
1kg of meat = 15 000 litres of water (this quantity is equal of 365 (1 year) showers)

In 2000 in the world consomption of meat was 20 kg/person/year; in 2050 it would be 89 kg/person/year
And all this without speaking of suffering of living beings...
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Re: 1 kg of meat =
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 02:02:14 am »
1kg of meat = 16kg cereales

I think this one is particularly significant, because it means you can feed many more people if they eat grains instead of meat.  To put it another way, raising animals for slaughter is an incredibly inefficient method of feeding people.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 02:19:57 am »
1kg of meat = 16kg cereales

I think this one is particularly significant, because it means you can feed many more people if they eat grains instead of meat.  To put it another way, raising animals for slaughter is an incredibly inefficient method of feeding people.

I eat 500g of cereales per day, its my single eating session.
If we take one-meal day standart, so with 16kg of cereales we can feed Sangha of 32 bhikkhus!
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 02:38:03 am »
Or feed one man meat while the other 15 starve!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 06:23:17 am »
Or feed one man meat while the other 15 starve!!

It is rather like that, developed world v. third world.  Though ironically it seems that meat-eating is increasing in the emerging economies because it's viewed as a "luxury" ( or could it be McDonalds? :teehee: )
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 06:26:51 am »
Or feed one man meat while the other 15 starve!!

It is rather like that, developed world v. third world.  Though ironically it seems that meat-eating is increasing in the emerging economies because it's viewed as a "luxury" ( or could it be McDonalds? :teehee: )

Yes it's true.
Hopefully 25% of Indian peoples are vegetarians, but because of chinease consomption of ivory we can lose elephants in some near future...
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Re: 1 kg of meat =
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 06:31:43 am »
Quorn is the answer!!! 
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 10:24:42 am »
Quorn is the answer!!!
I'am sorry )) What is actually quorn? )
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2013, 03:19:27 pm »
No actually, reply should be if Quorn is the answer, what was the question..
from "got a freezer full of it"  :teehee:

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2013, 04:07:13 pm »
Quorn is a meat substitute thats supposed to taste like chicken
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2013, 07:57:17 pm »
Ah ok.
Like soy meat?
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2013, 07:59:29 pm »
not quite, made from labratory fungus?
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2013, 02:42:09 am »
not quite, made from labratory fungus?

Yes, it's made from fungi.   It's very yummy.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2013, 03:39:39 am »
The problem lies not in not knowing, but in not wanting. All problems that humanity faces now are solvable, but society does not want to solve them.
It is obvious only when people realize that culture is not a bunch of people, but a parasite living inside human mind. For every person, one agent of culture is created (ego), which infects the mind like virus infects the operating system.

Culture is only interested in its development, not carrying about sentient beings if they cannot add to that development. That is why there is so much suffering which could be easily stopped, but isn't. Why society is so good in creating suffering? There must be a great force in action.
All the great humanists of the world were assassinated. Does it ring a bell?

Culture is a Demiurg which is taking shape rapidly, having its peak in Kali Yuga. Soon, very soon.

We care for every sentient being, but there is no more place and resources on this planet to sustain them all. We are now consuming 150% of good that earth can create. It is estimated that most of those good will be gone in 100 years. But culture does not share our fears, it feeds on them.

It all sounds bad, because it is bad. Compassion is exchanged by political correctness. People are being constantly dehumanized, and the only thing that constantly develops is military power. Why? Because it can shape. Remove those parts that are not needed. And that is, to kill.
This is our world today.

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2013, 05:41:38 am »
We care for every sentient being, but there is no more place and resources on this planet to sustain them all.

Population is a big problem, but a lot of the problem is that the developed world is using a huge chunk of the resources that are available.  So a big part of the problem could be solved if the developed world found more efficient ways to use resources - you could say there has been some progress, things like not building gas-guzzling cars, insulating houses properly, etc. 

But another important way the developed world could use resources more efficiently would be for people to change their diet.
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