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Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« on: March 06, 2011, 07:48:02 am »

I've just had a shock because someone mentioned  Stearic acid (an animal product) was in the computer I was using and I'd been completly unaware of this.  After some research it looks like 45% of each food animal is actually used to make products other than food. Many of these products are part of our every day lives.  For example:

Household: Paint, wallpaper,  carpet, plywood, drywall, refrigerators, air conditioners (freon, a cooling agent), ceramic tiles (egg whites), foam rubber (catalase enzyme ), detergents, fabric softeners, many disinfectants, household cleaners,  polishes, credit cards, paper money

Travel: asphalt, concrete blocks, steel, lubricants (fatty acids and proteins) and fluids, brake fluid and anti-freeze (glycerol),  and tires (stearic acid).
Personal: sunscreens, deodorants, soaps and shampoos, cosmetics, toothpastes and mouthwashes.

Health: Over 350 pharmaceuticals come from animals. Stomach remedies, vitamins and mineral supplements are also derived from animals. Many lifesaving drugs such as cortisone and insulin, and treatments for anaemia, emphysema, malaria, stroke and heart attacks are animal-based.

Work: computers, photocopiers, electrical circuit boards, ink toners, copy paper, steel ball bearings,  lubricants, industrial cleaners, fire extinguishers

Entertainment: photographic films, filters, inks,  papers, brushes, art supplies, instruments (eg, drums, pianos, etc).

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To be honest I wasn't aware of this and and shocked and disappointed.  Does anyone have more information on this and also are there any alternatives?
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Re: Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 07:54:02 am »
yes there alternatif there shampoo and soap. slowly many product have more use more from plant or plantation there a subtitted even candle the use palm oil and soy oil slowly we must too encorage this new begining  market so people would have more alternate choose when they use in product.


Stearic acid

It occurs in many animal and vegetable fats and oils, but it is more common in animal fat than vegetable fat. The important exceptions are cocoa butter and shea butter whose fatty acids consist of 28–45% stearic acid.[2]

Stearic acid is prepared by treating animal fat with water at a high pressure and temperature, leading to the hydrolysis of triglycerides. It can also be obtained from the hydrogenation of some unsaturated vegetable oils. Common stearic acid is actually a mix of stearic acid and palmitic acid, although purified stearic acid is available separately.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stearic_acid

so you see there could gather from vegetable too
« Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 07:57:44 am by daimond »

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Re: Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 04:50:21 am »
Caught the tailend of an advert which has just appeared on UK television from the supermarket chain Morrisons.
A child is at the meat counter asking are any animals killed, to which the butcher replies no, with a gentle smile.
Either I saw this out of context or its now legal to tell blatant lies on TV in front of millions of gullible children.
And so the slaughter continues....

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 11:51:20 am »
Many organic chemicals were traditionally sourced from living organisms animal and vegetable, hence the term organic.(eg. Stearic acid)
I think that large volume organics have for many years been made by synthesis in continual processes these days due to economics of scale.
Feedstocks would be other large volume organic chemicals rather than animal or vegetable sources, I would think. Some organic compounds may well still be sourced from living organisms however.

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Re: Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 11:39:39 am »
For those who can watch it here is a BBC documentary about using animal products such as "find bone China". 

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 12:38:40 pm »

I've just had a shock because someone mentioned  Stearic acid (an animal product) was in the computer I was using and I'd been completly unaware of this.  After some research it looks like 45% of each food animal is actually used to make products other than food. Many of these products are part of our every day lives.  For example:

Household: Paint, wallpaper,  carpet, plywood, drywall, refrigerators, air conditioners (freon, a cooling agent), ceramic tiles (egg whites), foam rubber (catalase enzyme ), detergents, fabric softeners, many disinfectants, household cleaners,  polishes, credit cards, paper money

Travel: asphalt, concrete blocks, steel, lubricants (fatty acids and proteins) and fluids, brake fluid and anti-freeze (glycerol),  and tires (stearic acid).
Personal: sunscreens, deodorants, soaps and shampoos, cosmetics, toothpastes and mouthwashes.

Health: Over 350 pharmaceuticals come from animals. Stomach remedies, vitamins and mineral supplements are also derived from animals. Many lifesaving drugs such as cortisone and insulin, and treatments for anaemia, emphysema, malaria, stroke and heart attacks are animal-based.

Work: computers, photocopiers, electrical circuit boards, ink toners, copy paper, steel ball bearings,  lubricants, industrial cleaners, fire extinguishers

Entertainment: photographic films, filters, inks,  papers, brushes, art supplies, instruments (eg, drums, pianos, etc).

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To be honest I wasn't aware of this and and shocked and disappointed.  Does anyone have more information on this and also are there any alternatives?


It should be compulsory to display the ingredients of all products and indicate origin.

You can't trust 'Suitable for Vegetarians' -  it would be good for the label to be used more widely and regulated.

Few people realise that medicines may contain a range of animal products, usually as 'occipients' ( 'inactive' rather than 'active' ingredients). One of the worst, bearing in mind BSE, is the use of Gelatin(e) in tablets and capsules.  The EU will not agree even to a 'V' emblem on the package to indicate the absence of animal products. So a Hindu gets to eat cows and a Jew gets to eat pigs, albeit without meaning to.   Pharmacists are mostly clueless and tell you that only capsules contain Gelatin(e).  They are wrong. Manufacturers couldn't care less. Try returning medicines to a pharmacist and they mostly refuse as the 'active' ingrdients are the same. Best to check the ingredients before accepting any medicine.

As you point out, though, once we are aware that we are contributing to harm (maybe through animal experimentation or slaughter) we have a dilemma.   Unless we adopt Jain discipline at its extreme and wear a mask to avoid breathing in any beings, use a whisk on the path so we do not walk on any beings, never uproot a plant, etc. we will almost certainly kill.


We can only do our best and keep pure 'intention' not to harm sentient beings directly or indirectly. 

The bigger question is whether, once we know about these things, we should set the example by refusing all activities which harm other beings.  Tie in a belief in global warming and everyone, and maybe we see the choice between making a change in our lives, or having that change imposed upon us.

That's samsara and that's what the term 'degenerate times' means to me - not just a spiritual decline, but a behavioural decline in societies where 'self' is protected at the cost of the destruction of 'other'.




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Re: Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 02:15:20 am »
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2012, 09:46:14 am »
This is part of my existential dilemma.
I want to be compassionate. I don't want animals to die or suffer for my benefit. It's all fine and dandy that I try my best not to consume animal products directly but what about everything else they are used for, everyday ordinary products? I'd have to live in a cave in order to escape it and eat nothing but plants which would probably end up killing me of a horrible GMO-induced disease given that 90% of our crops are injected with poison. Where's the light? How did we come to this? It's so sad. We'd have to start all over to clean this mess up. Like seriously be wiped out and begin from scratch. o_O
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Re: Animal products in just about everything :cry:
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2012, 02:54:07 pm »
We can only do what we can. By avoiding using and consuming animal products we can lessen the suffering of many beings, but we can't eliminate all suffering or solve the problems of the world.
Coming to terms with the world as it is, is one of the benefits of Buddhist practice.

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