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Offline Karma Sonam

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« on: November 30, 2011, 04:32:05 pm »
I've hit a bit of a wall in my attempts to move closer to veganism.  Turns out soya messes with my body chemistry :disappoint:
I tried soya milk and "yoghurts" - really liked them and was looking forward to trying other soya products when 6 weeks in it became really obvious that soya and I aren't getting on.

I'm on rice milk now (bit too sweet but hey ho...)  can anyone suggest any other non dairy, non soya products?  I'm thinking cheeses, spreads, "yoghurts"  that sort of thing. 

How do other people get on?  All the vegans I know (all 2 of them!) use soya quite a bit, so I am at a bit of a loss....

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 05:27:33 pm »
Daiya Foods cheese products are made with tapioca and canola oil.  Galaxy Foods makes a melting cheese out of rice starch.  Dr. Cow makes tree-nut cheeses.  And if you're on the ramen noodle budget, some processed cheese "products" are made with vegetable oil - usually the really cheap ones. 

Almond and hemp milks are good substitutes for soy milk, and have a little more body than rice milk.  Coconut milk is tasty, too.

Hummus is a great spread, and you can go with nut butters, as well.  Not cheesy, but good for knoshing with crackers.

If you just want something to sprinkle on your pasta, nutritional yeast is a good one.  Cheese sauce can be made with raw cashews, I hear. 

Real cheese is hard to imitate - if anybody knows of a good sub for it, I'm all ears because I'm a cheese junkie.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 06:44:31 pm »
What is the reason why you try to be vegan? To try to still pleasure like before in thinking you do something good? Wouldn't it be better to work on the real problem and accept what ever is given and reduce to seek for what is grasped, rather to wast time and energy in a unhealthy style of live? *smile*

As you see, the actually problem is that you like this or than taste. This problem would not be solved in this way.

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 07:07:03 pm »
@karma,

Eat what you want.  If you want to eat vegan, then go for it.  You don't need a reason.

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 07:16:46 pm »
Yes, eat without special reason. Pickledpitbull kicked the point. Moderate just to provide your body health and alive. *smile*

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 07:26:58 pm »
How do other people get on?  All the vegans I know (all 2 of them!) use soya quite a bit, so I am at a bit of a loss....
As to soya product I am consuming soya milk and soya flour and have no problem with that. Abandoning dairy products and meat has improved my well-being and my practice.
Proteins may be the main issue when going vegan but I think there are some good alternatives like nuts, beans, lens, potatoes. Potatoes have only low protein contents but these are of very high quality.

Other issues may be calcium and vitamine B12. Watch these.


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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 10:33:28 pm »



Soya production in Brazil


be good business: The Greenest Dollar Save Money. Save the Environment. Be Happy.


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direct to your home

Good for your practice and well being:



victims of war for business to support a healthy live


better future perspectives thought "development" and employment creation


Dana possibilities for Compassionate people


Side business for productivity: the environmental impact of health and good planned food





A little study in between

And that is the reason, why compromises never lead to an easier live and peace. *smile*


Fresh fruit import to us doubled in the last 15 years

Rate of change of primary forest loss, 1990-200


more possibilities for Dana:


All in all, its a perfect paramis perfecting producing system. In this way you can reduce suffering of your self and others and gain endless possibilities to let go by making Dana. *smile* Unsupported, non dual.

I heard that some faith in Dharma is useful to change one self and the world. And ineffective self torture is nonsense and causes also suffering for others.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 11:15:07 pm »
All that is well known Hanzze.

What you are referring to is the soya that is cultivated for animal breeding and feeding. Often genetically modified. A multitude of soya is needed to feed the animals for meat production.




Besides consuming the right products it is also important where the consumer products are coming from and under what conditions they are cultivated and harvested and processed :)


The world is a complex one, Hanzze  :teehee:
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 11:26:42 pm »
Hanzze, you better go begging on alms rounds and leave the responsibility to others :wink1:

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 11:30:53 pm »
So you think that taking what is given is less responsibility as to search for a way to maintain pleasure? *smile* Maybe one could be not the good man among them who like to be good? Difficult really difficult this thing of responsibility.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 11:33:12 pm »
So you think that taking what is given is less responsibility as to search for a way to maintain pleasure? *smile* Maybe one could be not the good man among them who like to be good? Difficult really difficult this thing of responsibility.

I think you should better go forth and/or into the forest and tell your nonsens to the monkeys :om:

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 11:38:45 pm »
As you might know, you already had eaten the forest so you must live with this karma fruits which might arise with a monkey *smile* Things are always self made and would not touch if haven't been caused by one self.

"The world is a complex one"
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 11:41:06 pm »
So you think that taking what is given is less responsibility as to search for a way to maintain pleasure? *smile* Maybe one could be not the good man among them who like to be good? Difficult really difficult this thing of responsibility.

I think you should better go forth and/or into the forest and tell your nonsens to the monkeys :om:

Wait I have forgotten an important term:

I think you should better go forth and/or into the forest and tell your irresponsible nonsens to the monkeys :om:


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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 11:44:04 pm »
Things may have conflicts and this might be the reason:

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For oneself, for others

"Of two people who practice the Dhamma in line with the Dhamma, having a sense of Dhamma, having a sense of meaning — one who practices for both his own benefit and that of others, and one who practices for his own benefit but not that of others — the one who practices for his own benefit but not that of others is to be criticized for that reason, the one who practices for both his own benefit and that of others is, for that reason, to be praised."

— AN 7.64

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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 11:44:31 pm »
"The world is a complex one"

Of course that doesn't need to bother you when you have a simple brain :lmfao:

 


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