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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2011, 01:03:39 am »
You know that an intention to buy meat causes harming and you honesty like to tell me that a intention to buy vegetable do not have similar effects?
Yes, vegetable are no living beings
Yes, yes I know...
I doubt that you know, but no need to stir again endless debates due to your ignorance.

So would somebody renounce for the taste of good food in the way he looks for alternatives which are pleasant?
I just nuture my body.
Doing just that one would not have the intention to buy this or that.
Why not combine the necessary with the benficial for others?


To grow his food by one self and look for one self what happens is a good possibility to understand Samsara.
So I hope you are doing so and not have others do the job for you.
I did, yes I did. I could not see a reason why I should harm others so I also stopped this. Before I thought it would be a honest alternative, after I saw that vegetarian life is not very honest as the seek for pleasure (and the reason for suffering, grasping) would not calm down in this way of "free" choice regarding "non-living" beings which taking does not cause harm.
Poor Hanzze, you have much to learn

The for one self might be the problem in this consideration. Other would not work for you. They would share what they have to much if you come across unexpected. Such a thought would be indite not good.
Thinking of what one normally takes to support the "I" the received food in balance what people would take normally is very less. To keep his body alive takes really less energy in contrast liking to be the good man. So such Buddha follower parasites are actually really silly they take just what is given and the "I am the good one, the doer, the helper" would even criticism him. And you know what, some even would take that burden for the sake of other and one self and the next generations. *smile*
Whatever you are fabricating just live up to your fabrications.

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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2011, 01:15:02 am »
You know that an intention to buy meat causes harming and you honesty like to tell me that a intention to buy vegetable do not have similar effects?
Yes, vegetable are no living beings
Yes, yes I know...
I doubt that you know, but no need to stir again endless debates due to your ignorance.
Doubt is good, and sometimes reading suttas from different views also. *smile* Or observing be one self, therefore one would need to change his shoes sometimes to know how it really is. Living room and nature give different views.

So would somebody renounce for the taste of good food in the way he looks for alternatives which are pleasant?
I just nuture my body.
Doing just that one would not have the intention to buy this or that.
Why not combine the necessary with the benficial for others?
That is the argument of "I wanna be the good man" if taking on one hand would be balanced with giving on the other side it would be a possibility to move on rather to seek a fast and secure way to pull out his own play cards form the game.
So the intention would be the try to be good by causing harm. Actually that is all men reason. Even the "mad" ones think in that way.  This idea grows very popular as you can see.
There is no perfection of paramis if on one hand is taking and on the other is giving, how could that be possible?

To grow his food by one self and look for one self what happens is a good possibility to understand Samsara.
So I hope you are doing so and not have others do the job for you.
I did, yes I did. I could not see a reason why I should harm others so I also stopped this. Before I thought it would be a honest alternative, after I saw that vegetarian life is not very honest as the seek for pleasure (and the reason for suffering, grasping) would not calm down in this way of "free" choice regarding "non-living" beings which taking does not cause harm.
Poor Hanzze, you have much to learn
Maybe, well some experiences do some good beside working on just ideas.

The for one self might be the problem in this consideration. Other would not work for you. They would share what they have to much if you come across unexpected. Such a thought would be indite not good.
Thinking of what one normally takes to support the "I" the received food in balance what people would take normally is very less. To keep his body alive takes really less energy in contrast liking to be the good man. So such Buddha follower parasites are actually really silly they take just what is given and the "I am the good one, the doer, the helper" would even criticism him. And you know what, some even would take that burden for the sake of other and one self and the next generations. *smile*
Whatever you are fabricating just live up to your fabrications.
For sure, as you told before. Maybe they could be from benefit for others *smile* and one self as well. It's a long journey.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2011, 01:17:56 am by Hanzze »

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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2011, 01:30:56 am »
Well Hanzze

it is always that if one responds to any of your posts once then this is the start of an endless thread if one keeps responding to your replies.

But you keep on fantasizing your ideas and thus your obsessions get even worse and aggravated each time.

I cannot help you, sorry. But you seem to be in a serious situation. Obviously there is nobody that can help you where you are living right now and your seeking here in the internet only perpetuates your malady.

I hope you will be getting out of this trap.

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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2011, 01:53:32 am »
Was that my fabrication? *smile* Or once again a mirror?
Don't worry I am doing well, if you have the feeling that you need to help me, you know how you can: Take care of your intentions. No need for hope.

Don't forget, there are also wiser one, so there is no lose if the intention is good:

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Fallen Mangoes

Use your stillness to contemplate sights, sounds, smells, tastes, tactile sensations, and ideas that make contact, regardless of whether they're good or bad, happy or sad. It's as if a person has climbed a mango tree and is shaking it so that the mangoes fall to the ground. We're under the tree, gathering up the mangoes. We don't take the ones that are rotten. We take only the ones that are good. It doesn't waste our strength because we haven't climbed the mango tree. We just pick up what's on the ground.


No need to clime on the tree *smile* we can live on others work.



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Re: Soya Products
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2011, 11:58:47 am »
many thanks Pickedpitbull.  I'll try and hunt some of these down.  :)
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