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m0rl0ck

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Longing for the truth
« on: December 05, 2009, 08:34:19 am »
Does anyone else have a sense of this? Not in the way of "oh i must become enlightened so my life will be perfect and happy" but in the sense of longing for a lost friend or loved one?

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 08:51:08 am »

Enlightenment....kinda like a mother-in-law....u DON'T want to be reminded of her always...yet you need her for that potluck recipe...   

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 11:00:24 am »

Enlightenment....kinda like a mother-in-law....u DON'T want to be reminded of her always...yet you need her for that potluck recipe...   

Great pic, and the quote is one of the funniest things i have read lately ty  :D

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 02:30:36 pm »
I have felt this very strongly.  It's like a longing that is deeper than any other longing.  Before I took refuge, just talking about the dharma in what little I knew, I would just break into tears, like this feeling that I lost a child or a mother.  It was quite intense.  It has lessened in intensity since taking refuge and practicing, but I suspect it will always be there, at least till I awaken, whenever that will be...

Meantime, I'll be busy practicing trying not to be such a silly selfish monkey.
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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 03:29:40 pm »
I came into Zen, not looking for enlightenment, but as a way for me to control a problem (anger).   Once I realised that it was the same mind that made me happy as well as angry,  I was well on the path.   I see it as, to seek enlightement will probably drive one round in circles.    To seek an answer to a confict,   whether it's, Why do I feel miserable? or, why do I get angry? etc.  Is a better option in my opinion.   
  In working with a Hou tou for example , it is stated many times by prominent teachers,  one needs to bring forth a great doubt or great question.    Who is feeling miserable or who is angry?  etc.
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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 05:45:09 pm »
Such heartfelt longing! It is good to know this about you all. I look at you just a little differently. Yes, I feel it too.


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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 07:55:34 pm »
Yes...i've been this way since a teenager...always wondering what this really is...never beliveing my eyes...knowing there's something else...sensing the falseness in everything.....knowing there's more to this...reading everybook i can get my hands on...searching for something i knew not what...but i can't stop searching until i find it...but i don't know what i'm looking for....LOL    i feel i've come closer now......it has something to do with the 'Oneness".....

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 08:14:09 pm »
Does anyone else have a sense of this? Not in the way of "oh i must become enlightened so my life will be perfect and happy" but in the sense of longing for a lost friend or loved one?
I believe that there is an innate longing in man to "return home". This "home" has been called "truth" and the "returning home" has been called "becoming enlightended". The whole life man is struggling either to find this home or the way home - most of the time unconsciously - or - once a "similitude of home" (illusion) is found - man is struggling not to stray from it which of course is futile as long as he clings to similitudes.

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2009, 08:46:16 pm »
 :hi:
I came into Zen after studying Taoist philosophy. As I said before, I do not consider myself as much a "practitioner" of Zen as a "student" of Zen. I'm far more concerned with understanding than I am with the drive to any enlightenment or such.
I fully admit to not fitting into any established Zen group or practice. I just do what I want, read what I want, study what I want. I'm a renagade in that respect. and I expect to be for the rest of my years.
I guess it's just my nature.
Whatever the "truth" is I am looking for it. Beyond that, I don't care.
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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 04:16:26 am »
I long for truth too . Want to be face to face with it. Through Direct knowledge.I tried science.Doesnt work beyond a point.Here and Now. Still struggling  :wink1:

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 07:54:42 pm »
One day (and this is a true story) I stopped trying to find 'the truth' for myself.
I decided I might not have the qualities required for success.

Rather I thought I might be of some limited use to serve someone who was realized and wondered what qualities I could develop to help those who had the Truth.

This shift from taking to giving enabled a needed change . . .

http://web.archive.org/web/20041121042724/http://pages.britishlibrary.net/edjason/alchemy/rasayana.html
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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 10:42:23 pm »
Quote
One day (and this is a true story) I stopped trying to find ' the truth' for myself.
I decided I might not have the qualities required for success.

Rather I though I might be of some limited use to serve someone who was realized and wondered what qualities I could develop to help those who had the Truth.

This shift from having to giving enabled a needed change . . .

http://web.archive.org/web/20041121042724/http://pages.britishlibrary.net/edjason/alchemy/rasayana.html


I feel that I have come to  a ladder that will take me to enlightment.
But my  longing for next step is grown intensily with each step I have taken earlier.

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 12:47:16 am »
Yes, this longing was a driving force for me also, until I realized two simple things.
1. If something is not true, it cannot be. This way, everything you face is truth and nothing but the truth.
2. Although concepts are true and sometimes point to truth, they may point to something untrue.

Truth presents itself all the time, and as such, it does not need to be found. Untrue things does not appear, they are simply nowhere to be found. In other words, everything experienced is pure truth.

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2013, 11:57:48 pm »
I used to think nibbana was the great escape but now i have changed! samsara on one hand nibbana on the other.One can see it as two sides of the same coin can we really drop out?Regards ;D

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Re: Longing for the truth
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 12:04:49 am »
Paradoxically the very essential, overwhelming desire is the very gift we must give up to empty our essential nature into receptivity.

We put all our effort into 'making no effort'.

How?
'Be Still and know I am Cod', as a red herring once said to me . . .  <3


 


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